“And I think it’s taken on added significance and the fans have shown that.
“When Arsene Wenger was under pressure because Arsenal hadn’t won a trophy, what he wouldn’t have given to win the Capital One Cup or indeed any trophy.
“Clubs are taking it much more seriously because the fans have made them take it seriously.”
And it is now the fans in red who will be desperate to disturb the gathering dust in their trophy cabinet.
One major trophy in ten years - the League Cup itself - is not what Liverpool fans are used to.
“It’s two attacking sides and two defences you can get at so I can see it being a high-scoring game or at least a very open one with lots of chances,” Barnes says.
“Of course the fans will have a big part to play because Jurgen Klopp has been talking about the Liverpool fans ever since he came.”
They are the words of a champion. One who knows success and failure and treats those two imposters just the same.
Goater meanwhile cannot shake the feeling of disappointment.
The paranoia that haunts football fans that even when it’s all going well, disaster is just round the corner.
“Liverpool in recent games have started to put together some good results and wins and of course they dismantled us 4-1 at home,” Goater says.
“And we’re a little bit wounded having played Tottenham and lost a huge game in the league. This is where the doubt comes from.
“We certainly have to raise ourselves for this game and prove why we’re favourites to win the Capital One Cup.”
John Barnes and Shaun Goater alongside Capital One will be helping fans make ‘the difference’ at the Capital One Cup Final at Wembley on Sunday, February 28